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on Jun 21, 2012

LightStar
I wouldn't buy an Apple product if my life depended on it.

The good thing is....it won't....

 

All I have from Apple is a 2C that I paid $5 for....and that was too much.....

on Jun 22, 2012

Hmmm, the sad thing about all this, well for me anyway, is that I was watching a tech show on TV where they were saying that Win 8 provides much better multi-core support to AMD processors in the new 'Bulldozer' range... being that I can pick up the top of the range FX1850 x8 @3.6 for just $184.00AUD.

There are other good things about Win 8, like native ISO support and native 3D support, which I'd love, but for me the Metro interface is the killer with regard to my purchasing Win 8 for the desktop. 

I don't care that Aero has been ditched - I redecorate with WB, IP and Winstep Xtreme etc, anyhow - and I don't care about dual booting as I have 2 spare PC's on which I could install XP and vista, but I do care about Metro being the default UI at startup and it cannot be disabled.  I don't want to have to deal with that mess... period.  I want an OS with a start button and menu that I can get straight into from the get go without having to jump through Metro hoops to get there... and being that some of those hoops are hidden/not clearly identified is patently stupid.

For me to purchase Win 8, MS would have to make Metro optional for desktop PC's... so I can make it go away.  Alternatively, MS could do me a really great deal [pay me to take it] and a 3rd party dev creates a 'get the f**k off my desktop' tool instead.  Other than that... I'm sticking with Win 7.

on Jun 22, 2012

Can't Windows 8 be installed on a secondary partition, so that way you can dual-boot between Windows 7 & 8 using 7's bootloader (on a non-UEFI machine)?  And if that's not possible, just run VirtualBox in Win7 with a Windows 8 installation if you want to try out Win8 so bad.  That way you'd get the best of both worlds.  At this point, I really don't think many people would want Win8 to be their primary (or only) OS installed on their machine. 

on Jun 22, 2012

VistArtXPosed
Can't Windows 8 be installed on a secondary partition, so that way you can dual-boot between Windows 7 & 8 using 7's bootloader (on a non-UEFI machine)?  And if that's not possible, just run VirtualBox in Win7 with a Windows 8 installation if you want to try out Win8 so bad.  That way you'd get the best of both worlds.  At this point, I really don't think many people would want Win8 to be their primary (or only) OS installed on their machine. 

 

What the OP article is saying that some new hardware in PC's developed for Windows 8 will not allow dual boot to older Microsoft OS's if I read it right.  I just find it hard to accept that anyone should be allowed to do that.

on Jun 22, 2012


If Win8 won't allow multiboot with winXP, I won't be getting Win8. Wow....that was surprisingly simple.

 

on Jun 22, 2012

LightStar
What the OP article is saying that some new hardware in PC's developed for Windows 8 will not allow dual boot to older Microsoft OS's if I read it right. I just find it hard to accept that anyone should be allowed to do that.

Trouble is, when a company has become as big as Microsoft has, it almost becomes a law unto itself... and I think the reason MS has included its own, older OSes in that 'no dual boot' list is to prevent accusations and/or charges of stifling the competition, eg, Linux.

On a more positive note, or should I say a more hopeful one, given the adverse reaction to Metro for desktop PC's, I'm sure there are 3rd party developers who will come up with disabling software to make Win 8 more like Win 7 [without Aero]. When that happens I would consider purchasing it because there will be contingencies for the various items MS has stripped out of Win 8.  In some cases that won't even matter to me because some of the stripped items I would never have used anyway.

Oh well, we'll see!  In any event, Metro HAS to be able to be disabled, if not gone entirely... as in an option not to install it at setup.... not that I'll hold my breath on that one.

on Jun 22, 2012

About the only way I'd consider Windows 8 in the future is if someone like say, Stardock , created a program that made Metro disappear.

 

I'm concerned that this might be such a disaster that the PC gaming market gets split as folks go to Macs or a new OS.  What would Stardock do in such a situation, given their past history?

 

 

on Jun 22, 2012

Alstein
I'm concerned that this might be such a disaster that the PC gaming market gets split as folks go to Macs or a new OS. What would Stardock do in such a situation, given their past history?

Oh I don't think Stardock will have too much to worry about, nor the gaming/skinning communities, for that matter.  Hardcore, skinners and customisers will always hang on to their earlier copies of Windows to participate in their fave pastimes... I know I will.

As for a software to disable Metro, well there's obviously a market for it, so somebody is bound to jump on the development of one.  Hehe, knowing Stardock, they're probably already working on such a thing... or so one would hope.

on Jun 22, 2012

VistArtXPosed
using 7's bootloader (on a non-UEFI machine)

Win7 runs just fine on UEFI boards.

on Jun 23, 2012

starkers

Quoting Alstein, reply 22I'm concerned that this might be such a disaster that the PC gaming market gets split as folks go to Macs or a new OS. What would Stardock do in such a situation, given their past history?

Oh I don't think Stardock will have too much to worry about, nor the gaming/skinning communities, for that matter.  Hardcore, skinners and customisers will always hang on to their earlier copies of Windows to participate in their fave pastimes... I know I will.

As for a software to disable Metro, well there's obviously a market for it, so somebody is bound to jump on the development of one.  Hehe, knowing Stardock, they're probably already working on such a thing... or so one would hope.

 

I'm worried MSFT will try to brick Windows 7 to force upgrades.  Dumbest thing they could do, but I've learned to never underestimate corporate stupidity.

 

on Jun 23, 2012

Alstein

Quoting starkers, reply 24
Quoting Alstein, reply 22I'm concerned that this might be such a disaster that the PC gaming market gets split as folks go to Macs or a new OS. What would Stardock do in such a situation, given their past history?

Oh I don't think Stardock will have too much to worry about, nor the gaming/skinning communities, for that matter.  Hardcore, skinners and customisers will always hang on to their earlier copies of Windows to participate in their fave pastimes... I know I will.

As for a software to disable Metro, well there's obviously a market for it, so somebody is bound to jump on the development of one.  Hehe, knowing Stardock, they're probably already working on such a thing... or so one would hope.



 

I'm worried MSFT will try to brick Windows 7 to force upgrades.  Dumbest thing they could do, but I've learned to never underestimate corporate stupidity.

 

If they do that, everyone will jump ship to Linux or Mac, instead of giving Microsoft another chance with the next Windows release after 8.  If they try to force an upgrade like that, MS will have committed corporate suicide.

on Jun 23, 2012

StevenAus
If they try to force an upgrade like that, MS will have committed corporate suicide.

They've come close to that already.... forcing Metro on the desktop is one wrist slashed.... bricking Win 7 would be slicing its corporate jugular.

on Jun 23, 2012

Yes, I mean more than they have already.  Metro is one foot in the grave... wouldn't want to put the other foot there too soon.

on Jun 24, 2012

GFireflyE

If Win8 won't allow multiboot with winXP, I won't be getting Win8. Wow....that was surprisingly simple.

 

It will.  You simply disable the secure boot feature.  Assuming the vendor is following UEFI guidelines, it's that easy.  Having an option for the user to disable it will not take away MS certification.

While we're here. 

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-secure-boot-plans-for-ubuntu-linux-revealed

 

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